Interview

Marie Fitzgerald talks with Julie Long

Marie Fitzgerald: How did you get into photography?

Julie Long: Throughout my childhood I would frequently find myself leafing through a book 'The Family of Man' by Carl Sandburg. My parents had lived in the USA during the late 50s and early 60s and had brought it back with them when they returned to London. It is a collection of photographs, exhibited at the Museum of Modern Art and was 'conceived as a mirror of the universal elements and emotions in the everydayness of life…'. It is a collection of pictures from around the world which depicts human experiences and is essentially street photography by photographers from around the world. I was, and still am, perpetually moved by the pictures in this book and it still has a profound impact on me.

How I moved from looking at to taking pictures took another 15years. I bought an Olympus OM10 (that never worked properly) and learnt some basic developing techniques whilst working in an adolescent unit where there was a dark room. It was set up by the staff to work with the teenagers but really it was for the staff. This was during the skin head and punk, glue sniffing days and an interesting time to be taking pictures.

However, I lost most of those pictures and it didn’t take long before I ditched the ‘no good camera’. Then, it took another 22years, and after a trip to NY without a camera, before I bought another SLR and my digital SLR a year later. I can’t believe I went to New York without a camera – now I have one I have to go back!!

MF: Why do you photograph?

JL: That’s a hard one to answer. It’s a medium to catch moments, movements, colours, shades and patterns. The camera does it for me. Something catches my eye, makes my heart jump and I try and capture something of that experience. I’m not sure if that answers your question.

MF: Why did you join LIP?

JL: By chance really. I happened to be walking along the river during the LIP annual exhibition in 2002, noticed it, went in and loved many of the images and then I saw the 'blurb' about LIP and it’s invitation to join and so I did. However, I didn't dare do anything for the first year until one of the members, in the old magazine, organised a trip to a mountain village and festivities in Spain. I went and that's when I began to get more involved in LIP meetings. I belonged to the Queens Park Group for a while where I learnt a lot and had my first exhibition.

MF: Why are you a member of the Ealing group?

JL: The idea of the Ealing Group evolved when another LIP member, Mark Mitchell and I unknowingly were linked by the backs of our adjoining gardens. We met up at Ryan's in Hanwell for a drink and said, lets begin an Ealing Group. Mark advertised it in the LIP magazine and in November 2005 we met with 'unknowingly' eight other photographers, all living within 5 minutes of each other in Hanwell. As you know we now have a core group of 13 photographers from west London.

I really like our group a lot. I just think that we work well together, want to learn and we are excited and beginning to grow in confidence as a group. What more could we want… besides an annual exhibition venue in Ealing.

MF: How would you describe your style of photography and the subjects you like to take?

JL: Do I have a style? Not sure; if so, it is evolving and doesn't seem to settle into any one thing. But what I find myself pulled towards is the idea of capturing patterns, shapes, textures and shades. It doesn’t matter what the subject is.

However, I do, too easily, get distracted and pulled away from the task i.e. it's easier to photograph pretty pictures and uneventful moments. I keep trying to focus though and sometimes I get a result. But my potential picture is always ‘about to be taken, at some point in the future’.

MF: Do you prefer black and white or colour?

JL: Overall probably black and white even though it is a medium I find most difficult to work in. I love black and white Portraits and people photography as there is something about it which can be rather unrelenting and unforgiving which I like.

I love colour photography for colours sake. I am about to go back and learn some black and white processing and printing skills. So I’ll see.

MF: After reading your blog in your gallery online I see that you use digital. Have you ever used film or did you start with digital?

JL: I began with film and then just before getting my digital camera I discovered slide film. Digital is great because it feels so economical. At first, I found it liberating as I could freely use up reams and reams of digital film, taking whatever, whenever. I also liked the idea of instant processing through the computer. I still like that. I still like digital.

But, two years on I feel I want to go back to slide film, to feel limited by a 36 roll film, to take my time, concentrate more, think about what I am doing. Is there a difference in the quality of pictures between digital and film – I don’t know. Is there a difference in the quality of thought that goes into taking pictures, for me, Yes! I have just come back from Venice after taking both digital and slide film. I am convinced my slides are better quality but probably because of the effort I put in. I’ll see when I get to some printing.

MF: Is pre-visualizing your photographs an important part of your photography creation process? Do you think significant photographs are more often results of pre-visualisation or of some sudden reactions to particular scene?

JL: It is impossible for me to pre-visualise but I imagine there is a split moment between seeing something by eye, it's caught as an image in the mind and then captured via the camera. There is some sort of processing going on.

I have been laughed at by the idea I have that I think that, as photographers, there is the process of 'seeing of the image', the mind then has to process it, and then the photographer tries to capture it. Once one is at home either waiting for the film to be processed or the image to appear of the computer I think there is a process in which the photographer has to mourn the loss of the seen image to adjust to and accept the image one has caught on camera. So, yes there is a processing of sorts going on.

MF: Who are you’re photographic heroes?

JL: In my childhood it was the book I told you about. In my adolescence I was influenced on the one hand by Don McCullen's photography on the stark realities of War and on the other hand the beautiful softness of Ansel Adams' landscapes.

The photographers photographs I find myself being drawn to are Stieglitz’s street photography, Godwin's more bleak landscapes and her collages.

MF: Is there a photographer whose style you associate with your work?

JL: No, it's a mixture of a number of them depending on what mood I am in.

MF: What are you currently working on?

JL: I have just abandoned, for now, working on a project I was doing on Southall, my first home in the UK. I was trying to make a photographic commentary on the remnants of the old working class Southall post-war up until the late 1960s and Southall of today. It's not working and I don't know why.

New projects – they are always popping into my head, so much so I am in danger of not following through on any one properly. I am still working on my Cumberland Road People Project and I am beginning a new, but long term project on 'People Reading'.

MF: What camera do you use? Are you a fan of camera gadgets?

JL: I have my Dynax 5D, a Canon A1, and I recently acquired a Bronica. Do I need anything more. No! I do find myself always on the look out for gadgets because I think if I have them I will take a better picture. Then I remind myself it is me who needs to take better pictures, not the equipment. I'm a little naïve about bits and pieces.

MF: What is it that drives you to carry on taking photos?

JL: I think it is the desire to capture, photographically, the essence of a particular experience. It is about finding those rare moments in which intellect, intuition and creativity come together at any given moment when there is a camera in your hand and an image is created. On a more simple level I just like learning new things.